MAFIA MOMENTS: Breaking Phone Addictions and The Perfect Evening Routine with Jen Gottlieb
Download MP3I don't really have time for a perfect morning routine anymore.
Speaker 2:Alright. Welcome back to another episode of the Meat Mafia podcast. On today's episode, we have another mafia moments, which is when we go back throughout the entire history of the podcast, and we find some of the best clips from our best podcast guest. And on today's episode, we had on Jen Gottlieb, who is essentially the Tony Robbins of motivational speaking and habit formation. She is so inspiring.
Speaker 2:She does an incredible job just breaking down different frameworks on how to incorporate some new habits and building positive momentum in life. And she's just an all around inspiring person. I know Brett and I both left the conversation feeling incredibly motivated, and it was honestly so refreshing being being able to dive back in to some of the the key topics that she had talked about back in the fall when we had her on the show the first time. And one of the things she talked about specifically was how she approached her morning routines. And if you couldn't take it away anything from that first little clip that we shared with you at the beginning of this episode, Jen does not believe in morning routines anymore.
Speaker 2:She she really believes in the power of a nighttime routine, which is a simple one, and I'll let her I'll let her tell you what she does. But, I think it's incredibly empowering hearing her philosophy around what to do with a nighttime routine, how to actually end the day with momentum, building momentum for the next day. It's almost like the best morning routine happens at night, because a lot of times the way we go to bed is the way we wake up. And I think Jen does an amazing job just spilling out how she does, her nighttime routine. It's simple.
Speaker 2:She counts all of her wins, and then she builds her self esteem through talking about all the little things that she did well and writing them down and, creating a journal and really just creating a really strong self talk. So truly love this episode with Jen. She also talks about how she kicked her scrolling habit and, yes, her scrolling habit on Instagram and Twitter and TikTok and just, you know, I think it's probably something that a lot of people struggle with is our relationship to our technology. So Jen does a great job in this clip talking about how she broke her habit. So I'm gonna let her run with this now.
Speaker 2:This is a long introduction, but I feel like Jen deserved that. And before we get into the episode, I just wanna give a quick note here on 2 things. 1, we have our Telegram group. Our Telegram group is just for our podcast listeners. This is for our most dedicated fans, our most dedicated listeners.
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Speaker 1:There was a time in my life when I was great with my morning routine, when my when my life was exactly the same every day. When I was a personal trainer and I got up at the same time and I went to my first client at the same time, I did the same morning routine every day. Worked great for me. Now I can't do the same morning routine every day because I'm an entrepreneur, and every day is different. And so I'm like, screw it.
Speaker 1:I don't have a morning routine anymore. Fuck the morning routine. But I needed to have something that was repetitive, that was a commitment that I could stick to myself every stick with myself every single day to just have that moment of intentionality with myself. So I decided, well, I don't have time in the morning, and my mornings are always different. But I always have 3 minutes before I go to bed, like, always, no matter what.
Speaker 1:When I get in my bed, I got a a few minutes to do something. And I find that I have this I have the time the time. I have the word time tattooed on my wrist. And I tattooed this on my wrist because the thing that gets me through all of the most uncomfortable moments in my life is always this concept that no matter what, discomfort is temporary, and no matter what, you're gonna end up in your bed tonight.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:No matter what. No matter how, like, no matter how this podcast goes, if it's amazing or if it's awkward or, you know, so far, it's amazing. But no matter what, I promise you, you guys are gonna be thinking about me in your bed tonight. Yes. We're gonna get in our bed tonight, and it's gonna be done.
Speaker 3:Yep. Totally.
Speaker 1:And tomorrow's gonna come. So and that goes for my workouts. My workout's so hard. It hurts so bad. I don't wanna do that last rep or that last step.
Speaker 1:No matter what, if I do it or if I don't, I'm still gonna end up in my bed tonight. How do I wanna feel when I get in my bed tonight? Because my overall feelings about myself, my overall I guess, my success is really directly related to the confidence that I have within myself in order to stick with the commitments that I make no matter how hard they are. So every time I get in my bed at night and I can say, Jenny, you did it, that's another coin in the confidence bank.
Speaker 3:Definitely.
Speaker 1:So what I started to do at night when I would be like, I got my 3 minutes. What am I gonna do? I just started writing down my wins, The wins for the day. Anything that I did that made me proud. So I could take a moment and celebrate it because that's important when building confidence to make sure that you get that little dopamine hit from the good thing that you did that was hard.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. But what ended up happening as a result was not what I thought. I initially thought I was, like, I'm just gonna celebrate myself every night. That's great. Here's what happened, though.
Speaker 1:I started going through my day pushing myself a little bit harder because I subconsciously wanted to write it down every night. Mhmm. I liked it. I liked writing it down. I did that thing.
Speaker 1:I didn't wanna get to the end of my day and write down, oh, shit. I didn't do what I said I was gonna do. Mhmm. I wanted to get to the end of the day and write down, I did it. I checked it.
Speaker 1:I did it. I did the hard thing. It was hard, but I moved through it, and I did it. And it's I I believe that success is not built by one moment. Success is built every single day, little by little.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. That progression every day. And so if you can have that little moment within yourself where you're like, I did it today.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You want it again the next day.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Totally. You want it. You crave it, and you did.
Speaker 3:I did. And one of the things you also said too on Saturday was that not only are you writing it down and ending it on a high, you're then sleeping, and then it's baking into your subconscious mind. So probably when you're waking up, you feel awesome about those those things, and that builds your identity of, like, I'm just someone that does hard shit every single day.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's a 100% right. Yeah. I love that he's baking. I use that too.
Speaker 3:Yeah. I'm always saying I'm always
Speaker 2:in great visualization.
Speaker 1:Things are always baking. Like, what are the ingredients you're putting into your oven that
Speaker 3:you're baking? Definitely.
Speaker 1:You know? Like, are the ingredients I'm winning? I I do hard things. Or the ingredients, like, man, I didn't do it again? Like, I can't do that because of or a victim mindset.
Speaker 1:Like, oh, poor me. I couldn't do it because this happened and this happened. No. What if you wrote down, you know what? This happened and this happened, but I did it anyway.
Speaker 2:Definitely. I love that. I can't wait to send this to my mom and sister and brothers because I feel like that the idea of a to do list, everyone's familiar with, and it almost brings, like, a little bit of, like, dread to people. Like, they're like, oh, man. Like, I have this massive to do list.
Speaker 2:I have to get through all these tasks. But the idea of, like, actually having a scoreboard that you can go back to and be, like, I I did these things. I I was the person who went and did, you know, all the things I set out to do today. I held myself accountable. Like, that is the best way to go to bed and also the best way to wake up because you're just, like, excited and inspired to go do more of of what you already did yesterday.
Speaker 2:So, like, I love that reframe. And I and I think about for myself too, like, the time period in my life where my self esteem moved the most quickly in the positive direction was when I was writing stuff down at night that I was doing that that I did that day. You know, it was, like, kinda patting myself on the back a little bit, but I think it's it's a really empowering thing to do. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's worked for me. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. How long have you done that for?
Speaker 1:This was a newer habit, I would say, for the past, like, maybe 2 years.
Speaker 3:So it's still a pretty decent chunk of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I would say that the growth that I've had I don't know if this is as a result of that. I think it's a combination of things. But, I chucked the morning routine, and I started just doing this. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And, the growth that I've had over the last 2 years have been the most I've ever had in my life. Mhmm. So, I mean, guys, everyone that's listening, take it or leave it. Try it out. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it was the thing, but it was one of the tools.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And what a better feeling way better feeling than, like, everyone knows the feeling of scrolling mindlessly on your phone before bed. And I just I feel like for me, I beat myself up over it because I'm like, I I know I'm mindlessly scrolling. I'm not creating. I'm not doing anything valuable, but I forget if it was at my Let's podcast or doctor doctor Gabrielle's podcast.
Speaker 3:You were really talking about using social media as this amazing tool, which is what it should be. So, like, every time before you check your phone, you're asking yourself, am I engaging with someone that I love and care about? Am I creating a piece of content? Am I doing this in a very mindful way versus just, like, aimlessly scrolling where next thing you know, you've been on your phone for 35 minutes and you've done nothing. And I thought that was a super powerful concept too.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I've kicked my scrolling habit completely.
Speaker 3:Really?
Speaker 1:I'm very proud to tell you this because I've been working on it for a while, and I found a tool that works. And the only reason I can talk about it is because I know that it works. I'm only gonna talk about things that I've actually done that have worked. I used to be that person that even this was recently. Like, this last year in 2023, yes, I was always going on to social media, like, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be intentional. I'm gonna be intentional. I'm gonna create a piece of content. I'm gonna go, like, chat with friend. I'm gonna go see what they're up to.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna comment on their post. I do that. Yes. But I was still my thumb on its own by itself without me telling it
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Will go to Instagram and just start going like this or going like and I don't even realize I'm doing it. And then it's, like, 15 minutes later, I feel like shit about myself.
Speaker 3:Yes. Because
Speaker 1:I was just comparing myself to a zillion people's highlight reels. Subconsciously, I didn't even realize I was doing it. And then I'm like, woah. 15 minutes, I could have been doing something that I feel bad about myself, and it's a whole spiral. So when I was thinking about a few months ago, like, how I could move into 2024 being better and what I needed to let go of, I was like, I absolutely the one thing I have to let go of is the mindless scroll.
Speaker 1:It is taking so much of my time. It's making me feel bad about myself. It is it's like taking my blinders that I have on usually, like, at the beginning of the day and just taking them off, and I'm looking at everybody else instead of myself. Mhmm. And I I mean, I'm just owning up to this because I have a feeling that if I was experiencing this, many other people were too or are.
Speaker 1:So what I I was like, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm playing a game. I was like, I don't know if this is gonna work. Every time I catch myself scrolling, I'm just gonna say, I don't scroll and put the phone down. That's the trigger.
Speaker 1:So when I first started doing this, I was into 10 minutes before I realized I was doing it. And I'm like, oh, I don't scroll, and I'd put it down. That's the rule. That's the rule. And so the win at the end of the day would be like, oh, I said I don't scroll, and I actually put it down even if it was 10 minutes in.
Speaker 1:As I started doing this more, it started to be 2 minutes in. Put it down. I don't scroll. It's changing the narrative. It's changing the belief.
Speaker 1:It's changing your identity. I don't scroll. Not I'm gonna stop. Oh my god. I did it again.
Speaker 1:I suck. I don't. Put it down. Now I pick up my phone, and I don't even wanna have to say it. I'm like, I just gotta go post.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna talk to this person. I don't scroll. And I put it right down. I have not scrolled social media for sure since the New Year has began, And and it's actually overcorrected itself now because I don't know what the hell is going on, which is kind of a problem. So I have to figure out how to how to find balance here.
Speaker 1:But I wanted to share that because it has been working, and it's taken my power back. It's taken my time back. And I love social media. I think it's phenomenal. I use it to build my audience.
Speaker 1:I use it to communicate. I use it to market myself. I use it to help people. I use it for so many things, but I do not want it to use me. I do not want it to use me, and it was.
Speaker 1:So I
Speaker 3:thought powerful. It reminds me of I know Kobe Bryant would say that he was really adamant about going to the gym at 4 AM every single day. And I think when he was younger, he did these calculations where he was, like, if I train from 4 to 7, I've added 3 additional hours of training. So if I extrapolate this over the course of, like, 10 to 15 years, this gives me, like, a few extra years of experience compared to, like, my competitors. So there's, like, the concept of adding time, and then there's also this concept of, like, taking away, like, the negative time sucks that are detracting from who you wanna be.
Speaker 3:So I even look at, like, my own phone time. Sometimes it's, like, 3 hours a day, and I know that's mostly scrolling. What can I do with an additional 3 hours a day? It's, like, I could probably launch a whole new business with 3 hours a day, honestly. So, like, how empowering is that for people, like, pulling those negative habits out and then replacing it with something that's really good?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Totally.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's actually kinda scary for some people, though. They're like, what would I do with 3 hours a day? Definitely. You know what I mean? Because that means you have to face what you're not facing, maybe goals that you have that you're subconsciously maybe doing things like scrolling so that you don't have to really face those or do those hard scary things.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:So that's a whole another topic of conversation. The only reason I can say that is because I personally know. I'm like, oh, shit. I have all this time now. Now I really gotta go for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know?
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